Information Security in the Digital Age [Podcast]

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This is the first of what we hope to be many podcasts in which we explore the technology and culture of Enterprise Information Management (EIM). We’re going to share stories about how OpenText is delivering world class technology and improving our Customer Experience on a daily basis.

In this installment, we hope to give you a better understanding of the current cyber security climate, show you what we’re doing to keep your data secure and protect your privacy, and tell you how you can protect yourself online.

Our discussion on information security has been recorded as a podcast! If you’d like to listen but don’t see the player above click here. If you don’t want to listen to the podcast, we’ve transcribed it for you below:

… The unknown unknown…
… If it was three in the morning and there was a bunch of guys standing down a poorly lit alley, would you walk down there by yourself? Probably not. Yet on the Internet, we do that continuously—we walk down that street—and then we’re shocked when negative things happen…
… People have an expectation that once they put a lock on their door they’re secure. And that might be the case in their home. But electronically it’s not quite so simple…

Are we safe online? Perhaps a better question is whether our information is safe online. 2014 was a banner year for information, data—what we now call cyber—security, and if analyst reports can be any indication, security professionals are on high alert in 2015. International governing bodies have also placed an urgency on better understanding cyber security risks and putting in place strategies to ensure stable telecommunications and safeguard information.

There has also been growing concern around data privacy. Though security and privacy work hand-in- hand and it’s difficult to have data privacy without security, there is a difference between the two terms. Security involves the confidentiality, availability and integrity of data. It’s about only collecting information that’s required, then keeping that information safe and destroying it when it’s no longer needed. On the other hand, privacy is about the appropriate use of data.

To help us through the topic of cyber security, we talked to Greg Murray, VP of Information Security and Chief Information Security Officer at OpenText. The OpenText security team is made up of specialists around the world who provide operational response, risk assessments and compliance. They also brief executive leadership regularly, and keep development teams abreast of pertinent security information. More importantly, Greg and his team work with our customers to ensure their unique security needs are covered end-to-end.

“It starts early in the process,” says Greg. “It starts in the presales cycle where we try to understand the risks that [our customers] are trying to manage in their organization. We find out how they are applying security against that, and then that becomes contractual obligation that we make sure is clearly stated in our agreement with the customer. From there, it goes into our operations center—or risk center, depending on what we’re looking at—and we ensure that whatever our obligations, we’re on top of them and following the different verticals and industries.”

Again, 2014 was a big year for cyber security in the news (I think we all remember the stories of not too long ago). But while news agencies focused on the scope and possible future threats, Greg learned something else:

“I think if we look at media, one probably would not have argued until last year that media was a high threat area compared to something like aerospace defense. That has changed. Clearly that has changed. As a result, customers come back and say, ‘Hey, our environment has changed. What can you do to help us with that?’”

“What a financial institution requires is very different than what a manufacturing provider requires or a pharmaceutical organization. Some of that, as a provider to these organizations and customers, we can carry for them on their behalf. In other cases they must carry it themselves. A lot of the discussions that we have with customers are in regards to ‘Where’s that line?’”

“At the end of the day, there’s a collaboration. It’s not all on the customer, it’s not all on OpenText. We have to work together to be able to prove compliance and prove security across the environment.”


Regardless of the size, industry or location of an organization, security needs to be a top priority. This concept isn’t a new one. As Greg told Adam Howatson, OpenText CMO in a recent Tech Talk interview, information security hasn’t evolved that much over the last 50 years (view the discussion on YouTube).

Greg’s answer may surprise, but after some digging I learned that back in 1998, the Russian Federation brought the issue of information security to the UN’s attention by suggesting that telecommunications were beginning to be used for purposes “inconsistent with the objectives of maintaining international stability and security.” Since then, the UN has been trying to increase transparency, predictability and cooperation among the nations of the world in an effort to police the Internet and private networks.

Additionally, if you have seen the Alan Turing biopic The Imitation Game, you know that people have been trying to encrypt and decipher messages since the 1940s and probably even earlier. Today, the lack of physical borders online has certainly complicated things, but the information security game remains the same, and cooperation among allies remains the key.

“Are we all contributing together?” Greg asks. “If we’re all working together—just like Neighborhood Watch—we need that same neighborhood community watch on the internet. If you see stuff that doesn’t look right, you should probably report it.”

The bad guys are organized and we need to be organized as well. The more we share information and the more we work together… Particularly at OpenText, we have a lot of customer outreach programs and security work where we work hand-in-hand with customer security teams. By doing that, we improve not only our security, but we improve security across the industry.”

Recently I attended a talk given by Dr. Ann Cavoukian, former Ontario Privacy Commissioner and Executive Director at the Privacy and Big Data Institute at Ryerson University in Toronto. In it, she said that “privacy cannot be assured solely by compliance with regulatory frameworks; rather, privacy assurance must ideally become an organization’s default mode of operation.”

She said that privacy—which again, involves the appropriate use of information—must be at the core of IT systems, accountable business practices and in the physical design and networked infrastructure. Privacy needs to be built into the very design of a business. And I think it’s evident from what Greg says about security, and the way OpenText designs its software with the users’ needs in mind, that our customers’ privacy and security is an essential part of what we offer.

“We have a tremendous number of technical controls that are in place throughout all of our systems. For us, though, it starts on the drawing board. That’s when we start thinking about security.”

“As soon as Product Management comes up with a new idea, we sit down with them to understand what they’re trying to achieve for the customer and how we’re going to secure it. So that by the time somebody’s uploading that document, it’s already gone through design, engineering, regression testing analysis, security penetration testing.”

“One of the other things we do is called threat modelling. Typically we look at the different types of solutions—whether they’re file transfer or transactional, for example—and we look across the industry to see who has been breached and how. We then specifically include that in all of our security and regression testing.”

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You don’t need to look further than the OpenText Cloud Bill of Rights for proof in our dedication to information security and privacy. In it, we guarantee for our cloud customers the following:

  • You own your content
  • We will not lose your data
  • We will not spy on your data
  • We will not sell your data
  • We will not withhold your data
  • You locate your data where you want it

Not everyone is up front with their data privacy policy, but with people becoming more aware of information security and privacy concerns, organizations are going to find themselves facing serious consequences if they do not make the appropriate changes to internal processes and policy.

Data security doesn’t lie solely in the hands of cloud vendors or software developers, however. We asked Greg what users and IT administrators can do to protect themselves, and he said it comes down to three things:

  1. “One is change your passwords regularly. I know it sounds kind of foolish, but in this day and age if you can use two-factor or multi-factor authentication that does make a big difference.”
  2. “The second thing you can do is make sure your systems are patched. 95% of breaches happen because systems aren’t patched. When people ask ‘What’s the sexy side of security?’, it’s not patching. But it works. And it’s not that expensive—it’s typically included free from most vendors.”
  3. “The third thing is ‘think before you click.’ If you don’t know who it is or you don’t know what it is… Curiosity kills the cat and curiosity infects computers.”

We hope you enjoyed our discussion on information privacy and cyber security. If you’d like to know more about the topics discussed today, visit, and of course We also encourage you to learn more about security regulations and compliance by visiting the CCIRC and FS-ISAC websites.



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